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The name Guyn may not be an original Welsh name because English kings brought Flemish and French settlers; soldiers, stonemasons, weavers and workmen into Wales over several centuries. It may be of Celtic origin, nonetheless and/or may possibly derive from 'de Guînes'. Over time, the name may have evolved into Gyn, or variants as well as Gwyn, or variants.
File: [ 1 ] [ Madoc_ap_Guyn_about_1352_Nantconway.txt ]
Transactions of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion
SESSION 1903-1903.
THE DECAY OF TRIBALISM IN NORTH WALES.
By EDWARD A. LEWIS.
Madoc ap Guyn; about 1352; Nantconway
We read of lands in the hands of the Crown owing to the paucity or defect of tenants:' of many tenements administered by royal offcials through the apathy of heirs in putting forward their claims and of a few tenants leaving their lands owing to distressed conditions.*
Eg., Min. Ace, 1171, no. 8, bs. Sd., the rents of the tenements of Madoc ap Guyn {6s.), and Blethyjrn ap Ior', free tenants of Nantconway, respited because no heirs put forth their claims. See also p. 39 above, n. 1.
pg 46
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Min. Acc. 1171, No. 8 = Ministers' Accounts (General Service) P.R.O) for Edward III, Regnal Year: 25-34 so sometime between 25 January 1351 and 24 January 1361; probably 1352
Appendix IV
https://archive.org/details/transactionshon10englgoog/page/n434/mode/2up?q=1171
https://archive.org/stream/transactionshon10englgoog/transactionshon10englgoog_djvu.txt
NANTCONWAY, a hundred in the E of Carnarvon
https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/21242File: [ 2 ] [ Robert_ap_Guyn_1290_Wales.txt ]
Feb 10 Westminster 18 Edward 1 (1290) Membrane 38 Robert ap Guyn and Leuellin ap Guyn 1290 Feb. 10. Westminster Membrane 38. Confirmation of leases made by the king's order, by Bogo de Knovill and Reginald de Leygh, of waste lands, &c, belonging to Montgomery Castle, to the followir g persons to hold of the honor of that castle :— (1) In a waste called Aldredesheye and Dyothugin, in parcels of from half an acre to ten acres, at the rent of Id. an acre. ... pg 342 18 EDWARD I. 1290. Membrane 38—cont. ... William son of Baldwin, Nicholas Brusebon Alexander son of Philip, Baldwin son of Philip, Hugh de Woderton, Walter son of Hugh de Woderton, William de Boulers, William de Hokerton, Thomas de Stocton, John de Cairicona, Roger le Forester of Corendon, Robert de Whictroie, Tudor Amadok, Eynon Thliot, Griffith A. Gronno Robert ap Howel, Robert Wnghan, Yorvorth ap Cadogan, Cadogan ab Wyn, Eygnon ap Madoc, Eyngnon Leg, Robert ap Guyn, Yervoth and Cadogan sons of Griffin, Leuellin ap Guyn, Boythex Hoydelon, Robert Waghan, Adam ap Leulyn, Gorgenno ap Yorvorth, Yervoth ap Yevan and Eynnon ap Griffud. pg 343 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015031081162&view=1up&seq=358&skin=2021&q1=guyn http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/patentrolls/e1v2/body/Edward1vol2page0342.pdf http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/patentrolls/e1v2/body/Edward1vol2page0343.pdf and https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-pat-rolls/edw1/vol2/pp334-354 - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - references to: Guyn and Howel People mentioned: Iueuan ap Guyn son of Ieuan ap Howel [and many others] See: File: [ 179 ] [ William_ap_Gyn_1327_Shropshire.txt ] [ Shropshire ] references to: Howel See: File: [ 186 ] [ wales_11_@_Stirnet.txt ] - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - Montgomery Castle Montgomery Castle is a stone built castle looking over the town of Montgomery in Powys, Mid Wales. It is one of many Norman castles on the border between Wales and England. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montgomery_Castle
File: [ 3 ] [ Thomas_Guyn_1386_Fisherton_Aucher.txt ]
Wiltshire Records Society (formerly the Records Branch of the Wiltshire Archaeological and Natural History Society) VOLUME XXVIII FOR THE YEAR 1972 27 Nicholas Seynloo ... Extent and appraisement at Fisherton Aucher before John Salesbury by Thomas Pycot, John Meriot, William Moone, Adam Hordere, Thomas Guyn, Philip Wyndhulle, Thomas Tonnere, Thomas Felawe, John Bacon, Walter Moody, Walter Gomeldon, and Walter Sawiere. Four messuages built, 2 tofts, 8 a. of arable land, and 2% a. of meadow in Fissherton Aucher and 2 cottages and 22 a. of arable land in Bymerton, worth 40s. yearly. C 145/236 no. 7 1 Abstract previously printed in Cal. Inq. Misc. iv, no. 360. http://www.wiltshirerecordsociety.org.uk/pdfs/wrs_v28.pdf and https://docplayer.net/99522517-Iitabi1-e-3kw-n-h-enrietp.html
File: [ 4 ] [ William_ap_Guyn_1327_Shropshire.txt ]
William ap Guyn was noted in the 1327 "Subsidy Rolls of Shropshire" @ https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Gynne; @ https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Gynn confirmed: Will'o ap Guyn; assessed: x d (10 p) [could be William OR Willelmo] Walcot, Parish of Chirbury; Hundred of Chirbury associated names: Roger de Woderton and D'd ap Phelyps [assume: David] found at: (Part 4; 2nd Series, Vol. VIII., pg 60) 1896 https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh28shro/page/n173/mode/2up in the 'Hundred of Chirbury' https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh28shro/page/n143/mode/2up What does the curly brace with "s'bt' ibid'm" mean? Chirbury, and Brompton and Rhiston, Shropshire and Montgomery, Powys https://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/montgom/1074.htm - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - The name "ap Guyn" has 18 mentions in: Survey of the honour of Denbigh 1334 examples: 1. "Villata de Tleghtalehern"' que continet in terris et vastis xxvij. acr. et iiij. pert, consistit in tenura nativorum in duabus gavellis videlicet gavella Guyon Goyk' ap Elyder et gavella Mad' ap Elyder ap Guyn vnde subsequitur de qualibet gavella per se." pg 297 ROUGH Google translate "The village of Tleghtalehern which contains lands and wastes seventh. Acr. And four. Pert depends on the tenure of the land in two Gavelli the Gavello Guyon goyke ap Elys and Gavelli Mad 'ap Elys ap Guyn for which ensued from any Gavelli by himself." 2. Wele Guyn ap Bleth "Griff' ap Tuder ap Griff', Gwyn ap Risshard ap Gron', Eynon ap Guwyn ap Gron', David ap Edden' ap Griff, Yeuan frater eius, Griff ap Gron' ap Guyn, Tuder Gogh frater eius, Mad' ap Tuder ap Guym, David, Guyn et Griff' fratres eius et Tuder ap Ken' ap Tuder tenent duas partes istius Wele excepta inde 70 parte, redd, de Tung' term. pred. viijd. ob., et pro pastu Principis per annum iijs. vjd. vnde primo term. xvd. ob., secundo term, viijd. tercio term. xd. q. et quarto term, viijd. Et cetera servicia vt supra. Et tercia pars istius Wele est escaeta domini cum lxx" parte duarum parcium eiusdem vnde respondetur inferius". pg 263 ROUGH Google translate "Griff ap Todi ap Griff, Gwyn ap Risshard ap Gron, Eynon ap Guwyn ap Gron, David ap Edden ap Griff, Yeuan brother, Griff ap Gron ap guyn, Todi Gogh, brother of Mad ap Todi ap Guymis David, Guyn and Griff ', relatives and Todi, Ken ap ap Todi keep the two parties apart from that Wele 70 parts, redd out tung' term. prod. viija. account., and chief pastors each year. reason. Replace first term. xvd. account., the second term, viijd. a third term. x. m. a fourth term, viijd. The other services as before. And third party Wele that the forfeiture of the seventies, the two sides of the same with respect to the response below." https://archive.org/details/surveyofhonourof01denb/page/n5/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater https://archive.org/details/surveyofhonourof01denb/page/154/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater&q=ap+Guyn 336 INDEX PERSONARUM Includes " only the names of the head-men of the Welsh holdings, as the inclusion of all the Welsh names mentioned would have rendered it unmanageable and swelled the book to an unreasonable size. (preface, pg vii) Guyn, wele of, 108. (wele of Guyn) Wele: communal property as in 'the common good (of a group of people, a realm, etc.), communal welfare'; may refer to the rights of the holder as much as the land itself. 'gavells' are subdivisions of weles to descendants of the original holders see: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/dictionary/MED52107 see: The tribal system in Wales being part of an inquiry into the structure and methods of tribal society; Seebohm, Frederic, 1833, pg 33 https://archive.org/details/tribalsysteminwa00seebuoft/page/n57/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater — ap Bleth', wele of, 262, 263. (wele of Guyn ap Bleth) — Eignon', 105. (Eignon Guyn) — Imper, 184. — Ken', 142, 143, 144. — Mad', 105. — Rir', 289. Guyn, 278. Yeuan ap Guyn, 305. Elyder ap Guyn, gavell of, 155. may point to, for example, "Villata de Tleghtalehern" (pg 155) https://archive.org/stream/surveyofhonourof01denb/surveyofhonourof01denb_djvu.txt and "Villata de Kylkeyn" (pg 263) https://archive.org/details/surveyofhonourof01denb/page/262/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater&q=Kylkeyn see also: Welsh Surnames by Morgan and Morgan, 1985 https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Welsh_Surnames/EIIUAQAAIAAJ - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - Bulletin of Celtic Studies "Guyn vaghan ap Guyn convictus est per cognitionem suam ad sectam Madoci Hir in placito debiti duarum crennocarum avenae quas ei soluisse debuit ad terminum qui preterit. Ideo in misericordia" pg 159 http://cyfraith-hywel.cymru.ac.uk/uploads/bbcs_4_proceedings_commote_court.pdf ROUGH Google translate: "By means of a knowledge of himself to the sect of guyn Vaghan ap ap Madoc, were Hir, in the guyn he was convinced of two crennocarum the sap of which he shall have paid to the plea of debt for a term which escape the notice ought to have been. So in mercy" "vaghan" means "son of" or "little" "crenno" may refer to a perennial herb of the Cruciferous family, whose root, with a strong, burning flavor, is used as mustard in the preparation of spicy sauces. https://educalingo.com/en/dic-it/crenno http://www.narc.gov.jo/gringlobal/taxonomydetail.aspx?id=4234 It is similar to horseradish. It is native to eastern Europe. "carum" may mean 'dear, beloved or expensive' cārus (feminine cāra, neuter cārum) https://www.wordsense.eu/carum/ - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - The Edwardian Settlement of North Wales in Its Administrative and Legal Aspects (1284-1343) by William Henry Waters 1935 https://darganfod.llyfrgell.cymru/primo-explore/fulldisplay?vid=44WHELF_NLW_NUI&search_scope=LSCOP_INLIBRARY&tab=tab4&docid=44NLW_ALMA21728690780002419&lang=en_US&context=L&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&query=sub,exact,%20Wales%20--%20Description%20and%20travel,AND&mode=advanced&offset=150 - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - Conquest of Wales by Edward I "Background: Wales in the High Middle Ages Following a series of invasions beginning shortly after their conquest of England in 1066, the Normans seized much of Wales and established quasi-independent Marcher lordships, owing allegiance to the English crown. ... By the Treaty of Montgomery of 1267, peace was restored and, in return for doing homage to the English king, Llywelyn was recognised as Prince of Wales and his re-conquest of Perfeddwlad was accepted by Henry. However, sporadic warfare between Llywelyn and some of the Marcher Lords, such as Gilbert de Clare, Roger Mortimer and Humphrey de Bohun continued." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_Wales_by_Edward_I - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - The Black Prince and the Grande Chevauchée of 1355 by Mollie M. Madden, 2018 "Men Contracted/arrayed who did not Serve for a Reason other than Desertion Cheshire William Bakere, ill Roger de Bechyngton, ill Richard de Codyngton, ill Richard de Caldecote, ill Howel ap Ll’, ill Utrich’ de Huxlegh, ill Ken’ Seys, ill Thomas, ill Randolf de Baggelegh John Boidel of Lymme David de Overton North Wales Atha ap Guyn, ill David de Ardudo, ill Gwynnagh ap Ll’, ill Howel Duy ap Tuder, ill John Steel, ill Flint Atha Loit ap Mad’ ap Thom’, ill Bled’ Arow, ill Jor’ ap Bleth’ ap David, ill Ken’ ap Jor’ ap David, ill" pg 214, see also: Appendix B, pg 420 https://conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/171443/Madden_umn_0130E_15639.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y https://dokumen.pub/the-black-prince-and-the-grande-chevauchee-of-1355-9781783273560-9781787443129-1783273569.html - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - Petitions to the king, etc Petitioners: William de Brewose (Braose). Name(s): de Brewose (Braose), William ... "Brewose requests Mortimer, Philip ap Howel and Rees ap Howel be assigned justices to enquire of the trespasses made against the king's peace to Brewose and his people of Gower. Those found guilty should be arrested and kept safely and the inquisition be returned to court and that Brewose be certified so he knows which writ to purchase." People mentioned: Iueuan ap Guyn son of Ieuan ap Howel [and many others] Date: [1317-1320] https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9333728 see also: Reference: BCM/C/2/2/7 William ap Rees; and Philip ap Howel, Rees ap Howel and Philip de Brenlees. Mon. after the Invention of Holy Cross, 7 Edw II [6 May 1314] William has quitclaimed to Philip, Rees and Philip, and the issue of Philip de Brenlees, the manor of Talgarth. [Fifteenth-century copy.] https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/b3227834-493c-432a-92ea-5b7d2c5a4355 See # 177 @ https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol7/pp142-148 - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - Denbigh Notes If we take the Hundred Rolls of Edward I's time as a faithful picture of the ranks and classes of England about 1280, we find that the broad basis of the social pyramid is still, as in the time of Domesday, formed by the great mass of villeins. If we cross over to Denbighshire about 1334, we find that the class designated nativi and corresponding roughly to the English villeins forms a small minority of the rural population. pg xvii It cannot be stated too emphatically that the tenure of the land is strictly communal. pg xviii, xix - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - references to: Guyn and Howel See: File: [ 119 ] [ Robert_ap_Guyn_1290_Wales.txt ] [ Wales ] references to: Howel People mentioned: Iueuan ap Guyn son of Ieuan ap Howel [and many others] See: File: [ 186 ] [ wales_11_@_Stirnet.txt ] - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - SHROPSHIRE LAY SUBSIDY ROLLS: 1327 About this source: Actual name: Fletcher, W. G D. and Auden. (1905). THE SHROPSHIRE LAY SUBSIDY ROLL OF 1327 Biblio Note Please note that this is a bibliographic record only, as originally entered into the BIAB database. The ADS have no files for download, and unfortunately cannot advise further on where to access hard copy or digital versions. https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/library/browse/details.xhtml?recordId=3149082&recordType=Journal Shropshire Archaeological and Natural History Society (Great Britain) https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Shropshire+Archaeological+and+Natural+History+Society+%28Great+Britain%29%22 - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - - o - Transactions of the Shropshire Archaeological and Natural History Society THE SHROPSHIRE LAY SUBSIDY ROLL OF 1327, With Introduction by the Rev. W. G. D. FLETCHER, M.A., F.S.A. (Part 1; 2nd Series, Vol. IV., pp 129-200) 1889 https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh21shro/page/n311/mode/2up (Part 2; 2nd Series, Vol. I., pp 287-338) 1892 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. I., page 200.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh24shro/page/n629/mode/2up (Part 3; 2nd Series, Vol. V., pp 343-362) 1893 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. IV., page 338.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh25shro/page/n735/mode/2up (Part 4; 2nd Series, Vol. VIII., pp 44-60) 1896 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. V., page 362.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh28shro/page/n141/mode/2up (Part 5; 2nd Series, Vol. X., pp 113-144) 1898 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. VIII., page 60.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh210shro/page/n317/mode/2up (Part 6; 2nd Series, Vol. XI., pp 347-390) 1899 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. X., page 144.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh211shro/page/n763/mode/2up (Part 7; 3rd Series, Vol. V., pp 55-80) 1905 (Part 8; 3rd Series, Vol. V., pp 237-252) 1905 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. XI., page 390.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh35shro/page/n127/mode/2up (Part 9; 3rd Series, Vol. VI., pp 123-154) 1906 (Continued from 3rd Series, Vol. V., page 252.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh36shro/page/n275/mode/2up (Part 10; 3rd Series, Vol. VII., pp 351-375) 1907 (Concluded from 3rd Series, Vol. VI., page 154.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh1907shro/page/812/mode/2up Shropshire Feet of Fines AD 1218 - 1248 Part 1; 2nd Series, Vol. X., pp 307-330) 1898 https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh210shro/page/n715/mode/2up Part 2; 3rd Series, Vol. VI., pp 167-178) 1906 (Continued from 2nd Series, Vol. X., page 330.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh36shro/page/n363/mode/2up Part 3; 3rd Series, Vol. VII., pp 379-389) 1907 (Continued from 3rd Series, Vol. VI., page 178.) https://archive.org/details/transactionsofsh1907shro/page/866/mode/2up
File: [ 5 ] [ william_guyn_1385_wales.txt ]
Calendar of Inquisitions Miscellaneous (Chancery) ... volume 4. 1377-1388. (1957) 1385 William Guyn or William Gwyn Wales 375. Inquisition taken before William Guyn and William Barwell, escheator in co. Hereford and the march of Wales adjoining, by virtue of a commission (missing. See Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1385-1389, p. 257) to them and others, at Tyneby, which is a member and parcel of the earldom of Pembroke and with- in the county. Saturday the morrow of St. Matthew 10 Richard 11. [1386.] Since the king by his letters patent dated 9 March 1 Richard II [1378] committed to William de Bello Campo, knight, the keeping of the castle and county of Pembroke, the castle and lordship of Kilgarren, the commote of Oystrelowe and the lordship of Seintclere and Traham, which were in the king's hand by reason of the minority of John, son and heir of John Hastynges, earl of Pembroke, a tenant in chief of King Edward III, much waste and damage has been done in the castle and town of Tyneby as follows. The wall of the castle has fallen down in part for want of repairs, damage 20s. A chamber in the castle called 'Lordyschambre ' is destroyed for want of roofing, damage 8 marks. The iron ' barres ' of a window in a lattice (cancelle) in the castle have been carried off and destroyed, damage 12d. The leaden roof of the chamber over the castle gate is broken and waste done because the hole has not been blocked, so that the timber of the chamber is injured and decayed, damage 53s. 4d. A 'pentys' over the castle gate and a building of the horse-mill (molendini equinii) in the castle are destroyed for want of roofing, damage 10s. 8d. The castle gates and a ' tripget ' made for the defence and equipment of the castle are destroyed for want of repair, damage 4l. 13s. 4d. Two messu- ages held of the said heir's inheritance by John Michiel for a term of years at the time of the said grant, whereby they were in the said William's keeping, are destroyed for want of roofing, damage 100s.; also a messuage in Beldes- wallis in the town of Tyneby then held at will by Richard Smyth of the same inheritance similarly decayed, damage 40s., a messuage where David Baugh used to dwell, damage 5s., a messuage called ' Beldeshous ', damage 20s., and a messuage in Frogmerstrete in Tyneby late held by William Coffyn, damage 3s. 4d. At the time of the said grant there was a windmill on the house of Magdalen which is destroyed for lack of repairs, damage 7s. . . d. All this waste was done by William de Bello Campo and his ministers after the grant to him, in contempt of the king and to the disherison of the heir. The jurors know of no more waste or ruin (exilio) of men at present in the castle and town since he has had the keeping thereof in the lands or buildings there. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000095331652&view=1up&seq=210&skin=2021&q1=gyn Index Guyn, William, commissioner, 375 Cf Gyn Gyn, W. , bailiff of northampton, 258 Cf Guyn. - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - Calendar of Inquisitions Miscellaneous (Chancery) ... volume 5. 1387-1393. (1962) William Gwyn 1388 325. Commission to Roger Wyggemore, esquire, chamberlain of South Wales, William Gwyn, lieutenant of the justice of South Wales, Res ap Gruffith and Geoffrey Bluet, clerk, to inquire concerning the information that Llannendevery castle should of right belong to the king. Westminster. 5 August, 15 Richard II [1391] (Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1388-1392,/). 519). https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000095331660&view=1up&seq=202&skin=2021&q1=gwyn - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - Calendar of the Patent Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office Richard II AD 1385 - 1389 Published in 1900 1386 Appointment of Hugh Yonge, chamberlain of South Wales, Matthew Westminster. Ogan, Lewis ap Oweyn, John Eynoun, John Andrewe, William Gwyn, Peter Jurdan, Peter Mortymer and Richard Hembrygg, the king's serjeant-at-arms, to enquire touching waste in the possessions of John son and heir of John de Hastynges, earl of Pembroke, by William de Bello Campo, knight, to whom the king committed the custody of the castle and county of Pembroke, the castle and lordship of Kilgarren, the commote of Oystrelowe and lordship of Seintcler and Traham during the minority of the heir. By C. pg 257 https://archive.org/details/calendarpatentr02offigoog/page/n264/mode/2up Index Guyn. See Gwyn. Gwyn, Guyn, William, 257, 258 Gyene, Giene, Gyon, Robert, 51, 304, 542. ... , Thomas, 184